Comments on: “Preaching against culture…” http://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/ "I will worship toward Your holy temple, and praise Your name for Your lovingkindness and Your truth; for You have magnified Your Word above all Your name." -Psalm 138:2 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:48:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: mike http://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-94 mike Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:40:44 +0000 https://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-94 Oh, come on, Brian MacLaren... I know it's you... ;D Oh, come on, Brian MacLaren… I know it’s you…

;D

]]> By: Man of Mystery http://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-93 Man of Mystery Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:19:59 +0000 https://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-93 Mike! I cannot tell you who I am, but it sure is great to see you around! I will be reading! Mike!
I cannot tell you who I am, but it sure is great to see you around! I will be reading!

]]> By: mike http://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-86 mike Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:14:42 +0000 https://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-86 I agree; the ECM tends to be very fluid on everything that counts - and whenever those of us on the outside point that out, they cry "foul!" and say "nuh-uh! nuh-uh! We've defined ourselves! We have, we have!" ...so then when we proceed to comment on their (current) self-definitions, they cry "foul!" and say something along the lines of... "You're broad-brushing!" "That's only one guy!" "You misunderstand!" "Instead of throwing rocks, you should be in dialog!" "Why is everybody always pickin' on me...???" ...or some variation thereof. Very tiring, and it becomes really old really quick. I again state: I don't think the ECM has any real staying power. It's come, it's currently blowing around a bit stirring things up (admittedly, some things that SHOULD be stirred up), but will inevitably blow back out again. The Word remains. I agree; the ECM tends to be very fluid on everything that counts – and whenever those of us on the outside point that out, they cry “foul!” and say “nuh-uh! nuh-uh! We’ve defined ourselves! We have, we have!” …so then when we proceed to comment on their (current) self-definitions, they cry “foul!” and say something along the lines of…

“You’re broad-brushing!”
“That’s only one guy!”
“You misunderstand!”
“Instead of throwing rocks, you should be in dialog!”
“Why is everybody always pickin’ on me…???”

…or some variation thereof.

Very tiring, and it becomes really old really quick.

I again state: I don’t think the ECM has any real staying power. It’s come, it’s currently blowing around a bit stirring things up (admittedly, some things that SHOULD be stirred up), but will inevitably blow back out again.

The Word remains.

]]> By: Chad Myhre http://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-85 Chad Myhre Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:26:13 +0000 https://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-85 I read that book. It was okay. However, the more I look at EC material and read EC bloggers.. the more I'm realizing that the whole movement is somewhat undefineable. It's confusing. I posted on this topic the other day and noted that you could get more information out of a zen buddhist on acid. It appears to me, that this movement transcends beyond denominational and doctrinal lines, thus becoming undefinable by way of doctrine. Here's what I know, from reading the EC blogs.. EC guys like to write and self publish books. EC guys like to go to EC conferences. EC guys like Mutemath.. (I like Mutemath too.. but not EC) I read that book. It was okay. However, the more I look at EC material and read EC bloggers.. the more I’m realizing that the whole movement is somewhat undefineable. It’s confusing. I posted on this topic the other day and noted that you could get more information out of a zen buddhist on acid. It appears to me, that this movement transcends beyond denominational and doctrinal lines, thus becoming undefinable by way of doctrine.

Here’s what I know, from reading the EC blogs..

EC guys like to write and self publish books.
EC guys like to go to EC conferences.
EC guys like Mutemath.. (I like Mutemath too.. but not EC)

]]> By: same http://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-50 same Sun, 26 Nov 2006 06:17:29 +0000 https://mikescape.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/preaching-against-culture/#comment-50 thanks for the quote - excellent. And thanks for your honesty regarding the subject :) Can I recommend a book: Becoming conversant with the Emerging Church - a really well balanced book and well worth the read. thanks for the quote – excellent. And thanks for your honesty regarding the subject :) Can I recommend a book: Becoming conversant with the Emerging Church – a really well balanced book and well worth the read.

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